Your thoughts on Tim Couch
Now that the Jaguars have signed Tim Couch, what are your thoughts? After all, he hasn't played a down in a regular-season NFL game since 2003. He's reportedly said that if he didn't catch on with a team after this comeback attempt, he'll call it quits.
Does Couch have a legitimate shot of making this team? Or is he just a camp arm?
Let us know what you think. Also, check out Vito Stellino's story in tomorrow's Florida Times-Union and www.jacksonville.com
Does Couch have a legitimate shot of making this team? Or is he just a camp arm?
Let us know what you think. Also, check out Vito Stellino's story in tomorrow's Florida Times-Union and www.jacksonville.com
posted by Michael C. Wright at
6:21 PM
9 Comments:
Does he have a legitimate shot at making the team? Sure, especially if Quinn Gray is stuck on the PUP list. One of the things that I think Jack Del Rio has shown here is that even the so-called "longshots" have a chance at making the roster. We have a 7th-round draft pick starting at defensive end and a 7th-round guy competing for the nickelback spot. An undrafted guy in Charles Sharon has a shot at not just making the roster but making an impact this year.
Do I think Couch is any good? I don't believe he's played at a level that makes him any kind of longterm answer. Even in 2002, when the Browns made the playoffs, he was not a god player.
Sam, Couch does have a legitimate shot of making the team. From a salary standpoint, he'd be a bargain if he wound up beating out Quinn Gray for the No. 3 job.
The verdict is still out on whether Couch can play though. Honestly, he didn't have much help in Cleveland and the scouts must've seen something when he came out to make him the No. 1 overall pick of the '99 draft.
If Couch can make the team and looks good, I think the Jags may try to trade (if they havent been contacted already)Garard to Atlanta. He would certainly fit their playbook.
If my memory serves me well, I seem to recall that when Couch got cut from Cleveland, he went to Green Bay and was excited to be backing up a future Hall-of-Famer in Brett Favre. The Packers cut him during the preseason.
To say I'm not sold on Couch is an understatement.
His making the roster will partially depend on Quinn's condition. He wasn't good at Cleveland and GB had no use for him as a back up. How he could improve out of the game for three years is beyond me. He was brought in as an arm until Gray gets on the field.
All it takes is one team's scouts to make a mistake and take a player too high. You can't believe what anybody else says before the draft and you should know that Michael.
Couch was a bust, not because he wasn't the best player taken in the draft but because he was in the bottom of tier of quarterbacks every year. He was the product of a system in college and if he was coming out of that system today there's no way he'd be a #1.
The Jaguars are in good shape cap-wise, and Gray's salary is what, maybe 1% of the cap this year. Not a ridiculous expenditure for a solid backup.
You guys all have valid points.
Couch at the Veteran min of salary is a good deal. He is no way a long term answer but his career starts and expierence will serve us well if we have to go down the bench and use him. I checked his QB rating 75.1 for his Cleveland time and it was Higher than Jeff Garcia while there. He is nota bad backup.
I have watched every Cleveland game since their 1999 rebirth and I will say that Tim Couch was never the problem. He was, by far the most productive quarterback (statistically) outperforming Garcia, Holcomb and every QB still on the roster. This is despite absolutely no talent around him at any point in his career there. Furthermore, the current QBs have had better O-lines, better running games, and better receivers and have still not been able to match his production. He was cut from Green Bay because he had severe arm injuries and struggled to pickup the west coast offense when compared to others that had been in it for years. For no signing bonus, he is absolutely a no-risk pickup. Also, for any who care to look, he compares comparably to career numbers for Leftwich and Garrard.
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